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Post by kayoneuu1 on May 18, 2019 14:14:13 GMT
It’s telling that of all scummos thank you’s very few, outside of family, were women. More and more of the boys club 😏
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Post by deb on May 18, 2019 23:07:01 GMT
wow... now that wasn't what I expected  Party / Coalition Votes Percentage % Swing % Liberal/National Coalition 5,198,463 50.89 +0.53 Australian Labor Party 5,017,509 49.11 -0.53 around 200,000 votes did it looks like they believed Clive and the happy clapper.in Qld., Abbott gone and that probably suits the Libs.. but a swing TO Dutton?? unreal? |
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Post by kayoneuu1 on May 18, 2019 23:17:11 GMT
and 11% swing to George Christensen! WTF!
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Post by deb on May 18, 2019 23:43:52 GMT
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Post by joono on May 19, 2019 0:58:17 GMT
Senator Doug Cameron
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Everybody knows that the dice are loaded
Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed
Everybody knows the war is over
Everybody knows the good guys lost
Everybody knows the fight was fixed
The poor stay poor, the rich get rich
That's how it goes
Everybody knows
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Post by pennybanger on May 19, 2019 2:57:45 GMT
Thanks Joono - I'm glad to know I'm not the only non citizen. I can vote, though - got onto the electoral role the same way as you Kay. I came here as an assisted migrant (10 pound Pom) and have never taken out citizenship. I figure I was invited here by the Australian Government, married an Aussie and am now the matriarch of a whole dynasty of Australians. I've lived and payed taxes here for 56 years and I think I've done my bit for the country and don't need to swear an oath or wave a flag to prove my loyalty.
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Post by kayoneuu1 on May 19, 2019 6:53:35 GMT
Thanks Joono - I'm glad to know I'm not the only non citizen. I can vote, though - got onto the electoral role the same way as you Kay. I came here as an assisted migrant (10 pound Pom) and have never taken out citizenship. I figure I was invited here by the Australian Government, married an Aussie and am now the matriarch of a whole dynasty of Australians. I've lived and payed taxes here for 56 years and I think I've done my bit for the country and don't need to swear an oath or wave a flag to prove my loyalty. Totally agree with you penny. I also felt I had already declared my allegiance to Australia by my life experience. However at the time I was living in Canberra, at the beginnings of the modern Liberals xenophobia, and had to become a citizen to be able to work for the government. John Howard made me do it and I have never really forgiven him. At the time I asked my husband and sons, all born Australians, to answer the citizenship questions I had to, and I scored much better than all of them. |
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Post by kayoneuu1 on May 19, 2019 6:59:27 GMT
So many people who haven’t lived a dual (or more) national life have no idea how it is possible to love more than one country. I think that is one of the major problems in our world today. Nationalism is so dangerous to all of us.
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Post by kayoneuu1 on May 19, 2019 7:01:51 GMT
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Post by kayoneuu1 on May 19, 2019 7:45:19 GMT
More random thoughts (because I’m in a reflective mood)
I really don’t understand the “anyone but Shorten” thing. Anytime I’ve asked people what they actually mean by that they haven’t been able to answer me. Sure, he doesn’t have the charisma of a Hawke, or the novelty of a Gillard (and he has a terrible running style), but really what was the problem with him?
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Post by kayoneuu1 on May 19, 2019 8:11:10 GMT
(Still being reflective)
Why is it that people in warmer climates tend to be more conservative?
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Post by joono on May 19, 2019 14:24:49 GMT
Because Queenslanders suck and I agree with everything else you said.
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Post by avatarcat on May 19, 2019 23:42:08 GMT
Queenslanders! Really?
A man set fire to himself on Manus. Their only hope was a change of government - now that has been lost. I shake my head at stupid Australians and weep for my friends on Manus.
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Post by deb on May 20, 2019 0:22:29 GMT
updated stats::
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The “miracle” has seen the Libs sweet in to a narrow majority. As it stands now the difference is 181,454 votes across the nation. Hardly a ringing endorsement for the @liberalaus
Over 5million Australians backed a progressive Labor agenda. We must stay strong and progressive.
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Post by figlet on May 20, 2019 0:49:41 GMT
A very dissapointing outcome..another term for that lot.
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Post by maggiemay on May 20, 2019 1:08:11 GMT
(Still being reflective) Why is it that people in warmer climates tend to be more conservative? it also applies to the further away from the coast/cities the more conservative and the more redneck
but to answer your question, the southeast is fairly moderate, and all the rest, which is a big area, are conservative, even along the coast.....when hanson first showed her ugly face, 25% the wide bay area voted for her
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Post by deb on May 20, 2019 3:44:59 GMT
hope you're nowhere near where they've been planning mines Maggie.. Qld is about to be mined in a big way
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Post by deb on May 20, 2019 3:51:41 GMT
newscorp are calling Morrison "the Messiah" in front page headlines today  |
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Post by joono on May 20, 2019 3:53:16 GMT
Sorry Maggie  |
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Post by avatarcat on May 20, 2019 3:58:57 GMT
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Post by deb on May 20, 2019 4:04:53 GMT
my belief is he didn't really want to win seats anyway Ava... he won votes from disaffected liberal voters and handed them back to the liberals.... what he really wants is to open a big mine next to Adani. which he will no doubt get the license to do now
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Post by maggiemay on May 20, 2019 6:19:08 GMT
a new mine? is that what palmer was all about? i hadn't heard that
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Post by deb on May 21, 2019 6:27:32 GMT
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Post by deb on May 21, 2019 6:29:17 GMT
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Post by madara on May 21, 2019 6:59:56 GMT
my belief is he didn't really want to win seats anyway Ava... he won votes from disaffected liberal voters and handed them back to the liberals.... what he really wants is to open a big mine next to Adani. which he will no doubt get the license to do now yep , and all planned well in advance . that's why he signed up anybody who was willing to stand .. 3 % there 4 % here .. enough to make the difference . i made a suggestion somewhere today .. left micro parties with no real platform , simply to harvest preferences .. want to join one ? it will be all populist lies but WTF , i need to get a 250 dollar haircut first . |
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Post by madara on May 21, 2019 7:04:04 GMT
Australians for retiree's ? the racist shooter coal mining party ? i need to condense that somehow ..
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Post by pennybanger on May 21, 2019 8:50:20 GMT
I wonder whether Palmer actually has the money for all his grandiose schemes or whether it's all going to come crashing down around his ears again - like Queensland Nickel and his dinosaur park and the first Titanic replica. He is already up to his neck in a court case with that Chinese Company hat could cost him big time if it doesn't go his way.
I'd also love to know where all the money really came from to fund his electioneering adverts.
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Post by kayoneuu1 on May 21, 2019 9:13:05 GMT
Looking at the news and hearing that Labor’s campaign being too detailed is one of the reasons for the swing against them really depresses me.
I really don’t want to make my voting decisions based on who holds up the shiniest bauble. But I suspect that’s all we are going to get in the future.
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Post by deb on May 22, 2019 0:14:17 GMT
so much analysis around Kay... my analysis is that the LNP cheated and lied their way in with the help of Clive Palmer
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Post by kayoneuu1 on May 22, 2019 5:40:14 GMT
That’s right deb, by holding up shiny baubles. That’s exactly what I mean.
People are becoming too disengaged to think with any depth about what they are actually voting for.
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