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Post by figlet on Mar 12, 2021 12:08:09 GMT
Needs a thread of it's own?
Meghan attended her elder half sisters graduation in 2008 (her sister posted the photo) yet Meghan says she has had nothing to do with her for 19 years.
About titles..
For Williams children.. "In the 1917 letter, George V declared that the great-grandchildren of the monarch would no longer be princes or princesses, except for the eldest son of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales. "
Prince George automatically became a Prince
"Under this protocol, Prince George's siblings - Charlotte and Louis - would not have received the title either.
But in December 2012, the Queen also issued a letter patent which said that all of Prince William's children would be entitled to be princes or princesses and get the HRH title."
I guess Meghan & Harry wanted the same. Even though their eldest is not going to be a future king.
Doesn't Prince Charles only want approx 6 Royals publicly funded when he takes over?
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Post by maggiemay on Mar 12, 2021 22:00:31 GMT
some of the grandchildren and all the other great grandchildren do not have security paid for by the RF, but Meghan had a tanty about Archie and implied that she was being singled out
i am not a royalist by any means, but i can't cop lies and other slurs .....about anybody
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Post by Clarabelle on Mar 12, 2021 22:05:38 GMT
The other children are not on centre stage like Harry and Meghan and therefore their offspring.
I can understand them being concerned about the security of their family when the press seem to deliberately incite ill feelings against them. I didn’t feel Meghan implied they were singled out, she understood the traditional reason for it, but understandably was worried for Archie.
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Post by figlet on Mar 12, 2021 23:36:16 GMT
One of their major complaints was that Archie wasn't a Prince and therefore had no security protection. He's not eligible to be a Prince though.
Even being a Prince or Princess doesn't mean security protection..e.g. Beatrice & Eugenie. "they don’t do public duties and don’t get security as a rule”
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Post by maggiemay on Mar 13, 2021 0:02:01 GMT
there is such a lot that she has twisted, it is not a surprise that she alienates people....one example
The day Meghan joined the Royal Family was, she claimed, 'the last time, until we came here, that I saw my passport, my driver's licence, my keys. All that gets turned over'.
Oprah responded to this revelation by depicting her as a sort of UK version of the incarcerated Dubai Princess Latifah: 'The way you're describing this . . . it's like you were trapped,' she said. ' . . .that would be an accurate interpretation, yes?'
Meghan responded: 'That's the truth.'
It was a very odd form of imprisonment then. For in the six months after her wedding, Meghan was able to use that passport to take at least four foreign holidays, in addition to official tours, visiting Italy, Canada, and Amsterdam, as well as embarking on a lengthy honeymoon.
In 2019, she visited Ibiza, France (staying chez Elton John), Italy (again) and New York twice: once for a lavish baby shower, and again to see her chum Serena Williams play in the U.S. Open.
Those were just the private jaunts. She also travelled on official business to South Africa, Australia, Fiji, New Zealand, Ireland, Germany and Morocco.
the queen is the only member who travels without a passport
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Post by Clarabelle on Mar 13, 2021 1:58:25 GMT
I don’t know how their travel works. Wouldn’t their ‘staff’ organise all the bookings, travel details, etc. they wouldn't sit in the terminal lounge with everyone else, line up, show their passports. Perhaps head of their security detail holds the passports, gets them stamped or whatever, so the royals and be ushered straight on to a plane.
I don’t know, and really, neither do any of us peasants, so how can we say that’s a barefaced lie, when we don’t know how royalty operates. I felt her problem with The Archie thing was the queen had changed other traditions, such as first born girls being heir, so why couldn’t she change this one.
Harry and meghan were expected to be fulltime working royals, their cousins are not, so comparing them and what security or titles they do or don’t have is not really fair.
I’m not saying everything said is necessarily the truth, but life is not black or white.
People can experience the same event but have different interpretation of what happened. It doesn’t make it a lie, just a different take in it. What Meghan experienced was coloured by her unhappiness, that doesn’t make it a lie.
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Post by figlet on Mar 13, 2021 3:23:34 GMT
Car keys - Meghan wouldn't have been allowed to hop in her/a car and drive off by herself....with no Bodyguard/security staff accompanying her.
Meghan flew to New York for her baby shower party... she'd have needed to take a passport for that?
Clara.. I though a staff member travelling with them might hold all the passports...wouldn't the staff who check passports would want to see the person travelling though? excluding the Queen.
Anyway staff have said she could get her passport etc if she wanted to. They just had them for safe keeping.
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Post by lyn on Mar 13, 2021 3:24:22 GMT
What Clara said  Megs security concerns were warranted and I fully support those concerns for various reasons. They had that loudmouth Morgan out to crucify them plus the media hounds following their every move and publicly publishing where they were living. They said, they had death threats. Harry would be reliving what happened to his Mother so wanting to protect his family was I imagine his number one priority. |
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Post by figlet on Mar 13, 2021 3:35:12 GMT
The media were despicable ..always portraying Meghan in a bad light and blowing up and twisting little incidents. I hate how they'd use a photo of Meghan and another one of Kate ..both with grumpy faces then make up a story. The photos were taken at different times not when Meghan and Kate were together.
I think they're better off in the US..can lead a more normal life, hopefully.
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Post by lyn on Mar 13, 2021 3:43:39 GMT
The fact they asked for help but were given no support makes
this bitter family feud just so sad. Amazing how the leaking of the tiff between
Kate & Megs was slanted as being caused by Meg. That after the
traumatic time she had leading up to the wedding with her Father and Sister
being encouraged to do a number on Meg for cash.
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Post by maggiemay on Mar 13, 2021 4:05:50 GMT
#5 and #6, that's what i mean, she twists things .....why do that and invite criticism then complain about that criticism
i agree that the tabloid media has been brutal to her, no idea why
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Post by flashie on Mar 13, 2021 6:17:12 GMT
Seems a shame that Harry's family didnt get the family protection that Andrew got.
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Post by Clarabelle on Mar 13, 2021 7:12:15 GMT
Does she twist things deliberately though? Or is it just how she perceived things at that time due to her mental state at that time.
It must have been all very overwhelming for her.
Perhaps now she is away from the situation, and the Family are aware of what she thought and felt, they might be able to work through it and change her perception/understanding of how and why things were.
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Post by maggiemay on Mar 13, 2021 7:34:19 GMT
you are a lot nicer than i am, Clarabelle, i hope you are right
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Post by figlet on Mar 13, 2021 7:43:38 GMT
It's a shame that her own family (excl her Mum) are a total nightmare. She had that to put up with too. Her father recently said if Meghan doesn't speak to him he's going to keep talking to the tabloids.
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Post by lyn on Mar 13, 2021 7:45:03 GMT
There certainly has been some blood spilt. It depends on how deep
the knife wounds are as to the healing. I just hope Harry and William
can mend the rift between them. I have a feeling Charles and Harry
mending the bridges are less positive.
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Post by Clarabelle on Mar 13, 2021 10:17:03 GMT
Her father is such a dick.
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Post by lyn on Mar 13, 2021 21:49:22 GMT
That recent interview with him he looked bloated and very unhealthy. I noticed a burger box and soft drink on the table in front of him.  |
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Post by figlet on Mar 14, 2021 0:31:28 GMT
He looked a little bit tidier (haircut) than his previous appearances.
"So much hot air was shared as satellite links were fired up and everyone from the Duchess’ estranged father and half siblings to former ABC and playschool host turned UK media commentator Trisha Goddard provided their 10 cents worth - in return for varying fees (I understand the Markles were paid thousands by the Australian media alone)."
SMH
Urgh
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Post by maggiemay on Apr 5, 2021 4:36:00 GMT
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Post by maggiemay on Apr 7, 2021 3:06:46 GMT
has anyone heard anything about philip? i doubt he will last until his birthday, but he might surprise everybody and hang on
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Post by joono on Apr 7, 2021 3:16:24 GMT
Is he really still alive or are they playing weekend at Bernies?
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Post by maggiemay on Apr 7, 2021 3:27:40 GMT
i don't know what that means  but wasn't there a european leader who was dead but paraded on a balcony for a while? |
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Post by figlet on Apr 7, 2021 9:08:47 GMT
I think he's still alive..was going to spend Easter with Liz. 8 weeks till his 100th birthday.
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Post by Clarabelle on Apr 7, 2021 9:20:06 GMT
Hope he makes it.
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Post by joono on Apr 7, 2021 10:15:24 GMT
He would be annoyed if he didn't get the letter from the queen.
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Post by figlet on Apr 7, 2021 10:19:35 GMT
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Post by Clarabelle on Apr 7, 2021 10:51:12 GMT
My husband always wants a root for his birthday. Wonder if Phil will get one
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Post by joono on Apr 7, 2021 11:06:56 GMT
Probably not. That could finish him off.
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Post by kayoneuu1 on Apr 7, 2021 21:23:11 GMT
😳 I was going to say something about my grandma making to 101 but I don’t think I will now 😮
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but wasn't there a european leader who was dead but paraded on a balcony for a while?
