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Post by deb on Aug 31, 2019 0:12:00 GMT
I also believe a confrontation isn't far off Cy
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Post by cydoniaquest on Aug 31, 2019 0:17:06 GMT
It has to happen.....that's a critical Trade route...Trump isn't just going to allow China to cut that off......Unless China wants to escalate it to a nuclear WWIII, they're going to have to back off.....BUT, that doesn't mean there won't be a conventional shooting war first....
Former Trump advisor Steve Bannon is recommending Trump give China 72 hours to clear off the artificial Islands and if they don't comply, the US will do it for them....It is yet to see whether Trump will take such an extreme approach. He may be keeping that card on the table.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2019 7:14:52 GMT
trump wants a war, but he doesn't want to get the blame for starting it, even though he will BE to blame. THAT is reality.
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Post by madara on Aug 31, 2019 7:35:47 GMT
It has to happen.....that's a critical Trade route...Trump isn't just going to allow China to cut that off......Unless China wants to escalate it to a nuclear WWIII, they're going to have to back off.....BUT, that doesn't mean there won't be a conventional shooting war first.... Former Trump advisor Steve Bannon is recommending Trump give China 72 hours to clear off the artificial Islands and if they don't comply, the US will do it for them....It is yet to see whether Trump will take such an extreme approach. He may be keeping that card on the table. he still listens to him ? things are at an all time low . |
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Post by duffy on Aug 31, 2019 7:38:38 GMT
trump wants a war, but he doesn't want to get the blame for starting it, even though he will BE to blame. THAT is reality. Blind Freddy can see that. |
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Post by deb on Aug 31, 2019 8:13:30 GMT
China isn't likely to back off Cy
Hmm Steve Bannon, Robert mercer, Nigel Farage= Cambridge Analytica. the vote fiddlers.. it wouldn't suprise me at all if they are responsible for stuffing up our last election too
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Post by cydoniaquest on Sept 2, 2019 13:20:06 GMT
You're not going to like me for saying this, but I think Trump is doing what is absolutely necessary.....We have a president who is standing for America first for once.....We're in this position basically because we've had so many past presidents who actively built China and gave them our technology. Clinton and Obama in particular, but the Bushes aren't blameless either....Finally, a president stands up and puts an end to it... China will back down because the last thing they want right now is to take on the US military. There are weapons that they know we have, but the public is unaware of....Consider that Tianjin may have not been what they told you it was....Think about what Trump just tweeted about the explosion in Iran....Trump claiming it wasn't us...(wink wink)....implying that it was someone else? LOL.... The whole implication here, if you think about it, is that we have the technology to do this exact sort of thing, and we know it wasn't an accident.....but......it wasn't us, Trump says sarcastically.....Meaning......uh, yeah, it was probably us... ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/97AA/production/_108562883_075ccc73-b332-4aa9-857b-fc5101f48bfc.jpgPoint is, we've got stuff China doesn't want to mess with....They don't want to start any wars now, when they know they are not ready to win....They'd rather continue trading.... |
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Post by cydoniaquest on Sept 2, 2019 13:59:16 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2019 19:08:23 GMT
cy, i'm not going to dislike you for disagreeing with me, as long as you don't act like the jerks at the roundup. i may not like what you have to say, but that doesn't mean i would dislike YOU for your opinions.
you've never been disrespectful here, you don't tell me i'm stupid, you don't accuse me of horrible things, you don't say i'm unpatriotic, none of that, because i'm a liberal. we're good there.
i DO disagree with you about china AND trump, but that's opinion from both of us, right? that IS one of the good things about america, we're allowed to speak our opinions freely. unless you're a member of the press, that is, and i'm not.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2019 19:10:01 GMT
no offense, but i don't click on "Q" videos, the last time i did my old laptop got trojanned and died. could you give me a summary, please?
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Post by deb on Sept 3, 2019 8:10:14 GMT
All good Cy.. democracy is what different opinons is all about
What you say about "secret weapons" could be true, but he could also be just trolling the Iranians. it's hard to tell with Trump
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Post by cydoniaquest on Sept 3, 2019 8:17:40 GMT
All good Cy.. democracy is what different opinons is all about What you say about "secret weapons" could be true, but he could also be just trolling the Iranians. it's hard to tell with Trump I think you put your finger on why he's so effective.....He's unpredictable. He's got the Iranians wondering the same things......They're nervous and on edge....I think that was the intent. To put them on notice that they are targets while appearing to say the exact opposite...
I don't think any world leader who has the slightest intelligence is taking Trump for granted these days.....Initially, they might make the mistake of thinking he's naive....Only to find out that he has teeth, and bites hard..
Initially I wanted Rand Paul for the 2016 elections...Then it is Cruz.....but I've come to see that this job is no place for a Boyscout or gentleman. I've come to really appreciate Trump's hard core, and quite blunt approach to things.
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Post by deb on Sept 3, 2019 8:23:11 GMT
"I think you put your finger on why he's so effective.....He's unpredictable. He's got the Iranians wondering the same things......They're nervous and on edge....I think that was the intent. To put them on notice that they are targets while appearing to say the exact opposite..."
I've read that the Iranians are wondering if the Americans did it.. and I suspect Trump is playing them at that
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Post by cydoniaquest on Sept 3, 2019 8:24:31 GMT
cy, i'm not going to dislike you for disagreeing with me, as long as you don't act like the jerks at the roundup. i may not like what you have to say, but that doesn't mean i would dislike YOU for your opinions. you've never been disrespectful here, you don't tell me i'm stupid, you don't accuse me of horrible things, you don't say i'm unpatriotic, none of that, because i'm a liberal. we're good there. i DO disagree with you about china AND trump, but that's opinion from both of us, right? that IS one of the good things about america, we're allowed to speak our opinions freely. unless you're a member of the press, that is, and i'm not. I would never treat anyone on this board in a disrespectful way, Mamasin....but it would be interesting to hear you say what you disagree with Trump on about subjects like China....I know this was never intended to be a politics board which is why I've tried to stay away from it and just post non-offensive things like cute hamsters....Things that people can't get too upset at...
It seems though, that the life blood of message boards is controversy.....If everyone has the same opinion or just posts cute hamsters, it can't lead to much of a discussion.....If people are up for it though, I certainly am..... I can talk about the issues without being insulting or personally offensive....I try to do the same thing on my own board, although people do insist on picking fights....In those situations, I tend to just brush it off....Lately, I have been getting a bit insulting on Youtube....trolling AOC videos.....LOL....(I've got to stop getting so much sick joy from triggering AOC defenders).....Sometimes, I have to just get that stuff out of my system.
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Post by cydoniaquest on Sept 3, 2019 8:33:02 GMT
"I think you put your finger on why he's so effective.....He's unpredictable. He's got the Iranians wondering the same things......They're nervous and on edge....I think that was the intent. To put them on notice that they are targets while appearing to say the exact opposite..." I've read that the Iranians are wondering if the Americans did it.. and I suspect Trump is playing them at that I've read that the Iranians are wondering if the Americans did it.. and I suspect Trump is playing them at that...
Exactly....that's my exact suspicion...Trump's intention is to keep them on edge...Keep them guessing.....Keep them in fear of what he might be capable of....The best bluff is someone who doesn't bluff....I think the most shocking thing about Trump, that people like Kim Jung Un almost found out the hard way...is that...Trump doesn't bluff. When he promises fire and fury, the likes the world has never seen before, I do believe he meant just that.....
Sometimes, to just keep the enemy guessing and believing that you might be capable of anything, is a good deterrent to prevent them from taking reckless chances.....So, yeah, on this particular Tweet, I think it was tactically well thought out.....but I have been critical of some of Trump's other tweets that almost crashed the markets in the middle of the trading week, for being tactically unwise....I do believe it can go both ways for him....you never know if he's saying something well thought out and calculated for tactical effect OR....if it's just a thoughtless remark he Twittered because he was board in the old throne room...
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Post by madara on Sept 3, 2019 8:36:46 GMT
despite the BS , she's a bright person (AOC) . i don't intend to engage anyone politically here though , there's enough places for that .
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Post by cydoniaquest on Sept 3, 2019 8:38:43 GMT
despite the BS , she's a bright person (AOC) . i don't intend to engage anyone politically here though , there's enough places for that . She does make Hank Johnson look like a genius. I'll give her that. |
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Post by madara on Sept 3, 2019 8:52:02 GMT
we could keep it up or leave it ? i know how you feel about it , there's an air of predictability about further conversation from this point so cheers .
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Post by cydoniaquest on Sept 3, 2019 9:03:54 GMT
we could keep it up or leave it ? i know how you feel about it , there's an air of predictability about further conversation from this point so cheers . I love AOC....She's the best gift Republicans could ask for. |
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Post by duffy on Sept 3, 2019 9:22:18 GMT
'you never know if he's saying something well thought out and calculated for tactical effect'
Nothing he EVER tweets is thought out, he's a loose cannon, stupid and dangerous.
He has totally lowered the bar, time will tell if that's reversible.
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Post by joono on Sept 3, 2019 9:32:54 GMT
'you never know if he's saying something well thought out and calculated for tactical effect' Nothing he EVER tweets is thought out, he's a loose cannon, stupid and dangerous. He has totally lowered the bar, time will tell if that's reversible.  Sorry Cy but I've got to agree with that. |
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Post by cydoniaquest on Sept 3, 2019 10:08:27 GMT
'you never know if he's saying something well thought out and calculated for tactical effect' Nothing he EVER tweets is thought out, he's a loose cannon, stupid and dangerous. He has totally lowered the bar, time will tell if that's reversible. Well, compare your statement to his results...If your statement were true, then he would not be winning everything he comes across despite incredible odds against him.
Trump is ONLY a threat to the enemies of America (USA).....China doesn't like him....Child trafficking Democrats don't like him.....The Clinton mafia and Democrat associates of billionaire pedophile Jeffry Epstein sure don't like him. Socialists, communists and enemies of the constitution don't like him.....EU climate scamming communists don't like him.
His enemies do think he's a loose cannon, and I think that's a good deterrent....Nobody wants to mess with a loose cannon. If his enemies think he's stupid, then that's to his tactical advantage. Everyone who has thought Trump was stupid has been burned by that belief.....
Yes, Iceman, he is dangerous.....That's what I like about him...
If he has lowered the bar, then Democrats and the enemies of the US should have no problem defeating him....Ahhh....thar's the rub.....the paradox. You can hear crickets chirping at his opponents rallies....
At Trump rallies, there are sold out stadiums, with lines miles out the door....If anything, he's many times more popular now than when he beat Hillary, in orders of magnitude. And his competition are absolute self imploding jokes...
In fact, it looks like Pedo, creepy uncle Joe Biden is the best they got...and he's doing a gaff a minute these days....Cheating through social media influence is actually the best hope Democrats have.....which is where my criticism of Trump mainly lies...the fact that he doesn't seem to be moving quickly enough to make sure that companies like Google can't steal this election.
While Trump's competition doesn't worry me in the slightest.....Google rigging elections does....
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Post by cydoniaquest on Sept 3, 2019 10:38:45 GMT
Did I jump the shark?  |
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Post by duffy on Sept 3, 2019 10:41:13 GMT
Dear Leader.
Sane Republicans don't even like him.
He's popular with the redneck right- racists, homophobes, bigots... the Bible Belt. America is so backwards compared to other countries.
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Post by cydoniaquest on Sept 3, 2019 10:50:06 GMT
Dear Leader. Sane Republicans don't even like him. He's popular with the redneck right- racists, homophobes, bigots... the Bible Belt. America is so backwards compared to other countries. Those are just insults. They have no basis in reality. Can you give me some actual policies of Trump you don't like? Do you prefer socialism as a system, for example?
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Post by duffy on Sept 3, 2019 11:02:15 GMT
That is the reality.
Am off my pc for the night now - I'll get back to you tomorrow. (so you aren't sitting there waiting for me to reply)
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Post by joono on Sept 3, 2019 11:11:24 GMT
I don't think China even cares about Trump right now. He's just a pimple that can be squeezed later. Attachment Deleted |
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Post by cydoniaquest on Sept 3, 2019 11:12:21 GMT
Nothing?
Hey, it's Ok if you tell me that you don't like Trump's personality...not everyone does. My sister (who is very religious) can't get past her dislike of his personality.....It took awhile to grow on me as well.....But, my main interest in a president has nothing to do with his personality...It's all about policies, what he's doing for the country...Upholding the principals outlined in the US Constitution. Putting America first.....Now, that's an interesting one right there. EVERY country on this planet with a good leader, will have the leader of that country put their country first. The Premier of China, Xi...puts China first......Putin puts Russia first...Every good leader will put their country's own needs as the priority above other countries....Yet when we finally get a president of the US who wants to do that for America, that's horrible to the left.....It's because the left doesn't want America first. They want to represent other countries and other systems of government before this one....That's insane....That's not a leader. That's a traitor....We finally have a leader for once...A president who is actually not trying to sell out America for once.....How is that a bad thing?
It's not a bad thing actually if you're a US citizen who loves his/her country. But, isn't it amazing that it's actually a refreshing change from the norm to have an actual US president who puts his country first....That SHOULD NOT be an anomaly..and yet, we haven't had a real president for a long time. We've had enemies of America as president, to tell you the truth...Obama was a complete imposter. That's why Hillary thought she had it in the bag....The enemy has had this government so infiltrated and the elections so rigged, they thought they had a sure thing.....
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Post by cydoniaquest on Sept 3, 2019 11:13:28 GMT
I don't think China even cares about Trump right now. He's just a pimple that can be squeezed later. They care because he just screwed up their agenda......He just shut them down. |
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Post by cydoniaquest on Sept 3, 2019 11:14:18 GMT
That is the reality. Am off my pc for the night now - I'll get back to you tomorrow. (so you aren't sitting there waiting for me to reply) I will be waiting here for you with bated breath and bloodshot eyes, with puffed cheeks like an eager hamster. |
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