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Post by lyn on Oct 11, 2018 10:52:03 GMT
Yes I think the same -
I'm conflicted with Keli I don't want to think a mother could be that evil
but it's a hard one - Same with that Kathleen Folbigg.
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Post by maggiemay on Oct 11, 2018 20:59:55 GMT
where was there a mention of a capsule? a capsule would be of no use in a taxi
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Post by lyn on Oct 11, 2018 23:08:01 GMT
In a recording of one of her calls with journalist Caro Meldrum-Hanna, Keli recalled her last image of her daughter.
“She’s so beautiful and just, she’s asleep and she was tucked in this … she looked so little tucked in this capsule.
I was very upset, I was crying, and Andrew was with … Mel and his mother were on the other …
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Post by maggiemay on Oct 11, 2018 23:18:05 GMT
ah, yes, but she lies every time she opens her mouth
hospitals here will not release babies unless the parent has a suitable baby car seat, don't know about Sydney hospitals, hope it's the same, but if she snuck out in a hurry to get to the wedding, who knows
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Post by lyn on Oct 11, 2018 23:31:41 GMT
Exactly Maggie - it's all a bit of a mystery and difficult to follow with all
the fibs and secrecy during her life I still can't fathom how someone didn't notice
all these pregnancies.
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Post by maggiemay on Oct 11, 2018 23:40:15 GMT
Lyn, i think it will end up to be an unsolved mystery, like several others in Australia.....she will be released in 5 years and will go on with her life and nobody (except her) will ever know the truth
have you heard anything about her husband and child? is she still married? wonder what his take on this is |
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Post by figlet on Oct 12, 2018 0:27:18 GMT
How did she get a capsule to put her newborn in? Can't see her taking her own in, before the birth.
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Post by figlet on Oct 12, 2018 0:30:35 GMT
Her husband split up with her after it all came out.
Child brought up with her parents.
She has a 'long term' partner.. A guy whose name is published in the news and is active in trying to clear her name.
Presumably she met him after she went to prison.
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Post by pennybanger on Oct 12, 2018 0:33:08 GMT
I think a taxi driver would have registered something a bit odd about a young woman, on her own, with a new baby in her arms.
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Post by figlet on Oct 12, 2018 0:36:12 GMT
She gave the baby away before she left in a taxi...(according to her story).
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Post by maggiemay on Oct 12, 2018 0:45:00 GMT
there are heaps of articles about her....her parents sound horrible, especially her father, very strict and authoritarian
Cowdery has resigned from his white ribbon position after his comments, but i think he was spot on with them
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Post by figlet on Oct 12, 2018 1:40:41 GMT
Fortunate for her that her father was a policeman, he confidently escorted her to court (with all the media intrustion etc, that goes with that. It would scare most people off (in a high profile case like that).
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Post by figlet on Oct 12, 2018 1:42:57 GMT
there are heaps of articles about her....her parents sound horrible, especially her father, very strict and authoritarian Cowdery has resigned from his white ribbon position after his comments, but i think he was spot on with them Not the appropriate thing to say on national television, though. |
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Post by duffy on Oct 12, 2018 8:44:25 GMT
Did anyone follow the case at the time? I didn't.
That guys comment was inappropriate, I thought when he said that, he was kind of smiling..I didn't think he meant to be mean as such but what I thought he basically was saying was that Keli slept around and had babies all the time, it was a stupid thing to say and I'm sure he would regret it now.
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Post by duffy on Oct 12, 2018 9:15:00 GMT
Not that it wasn't true, it's just not something he shouldn't have said out loud...on tv, I kind of feel sorry for him but he really should have known better especially given his position with WR.
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Post by figlet on Oct 12, 2018 10:25:34 GMT
Yes, followed it a the time. It was extensively covered in NSW newspapers (SMH).. then they released transcripts and some police taped conversations of Kelis..one I mentioned earlier when she told her mother they were investigating her/going to trial and all her mother was worried about was the publicity.. didn't want it affecting Kelis brothers career.
Even then.. the trial it was quite a few years (13?) after Tegan disappeared. So same issues as now.. can't fill in missing pieces too long ago.
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Post by figlet on Oct 12, 2018 10:30:10 GMT
This is from the EXPOSED ABC fb group, which is public (they're looking for more info about Auburn Hospital, which has now been replaced with a new one .. from staff, anyone that remembers Keli being there etc).
Factual info/background
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THIS IS WHY WE ARE SEEKING THE INFO & PHOTOS ABOVE:
Because exactly what happened that day is still unknown and Tegan has never found found (dead or alive).
Keli Lane arrived at Auburn Hospital on 11/9/96 and gave birth to Tegan shortly thereafter on 12/9/96.
She chose Auburn Hospital because it was somewhat geographically distanced/away from her social circles, family, friends etc on the Northern Beaches.
She gave her full real name and her correct date of birth.
She told a series of lies regarding her real address, and phone numbers for people were also falsely given.
Hospital records show Keli Lane breastfed Tegan, bathed her, and rested with her. She was engaging well and normally with Tegan.
Keli Lane was 21 years old.
She had tried to get the birth induced at Ryde Hospital in the weeks leading up to going to Auburn, telling Ryde Hospital she was overdue.
Baby Tegan was a healthy girl.
She was checked by the on-duty doctor at Auburn and the nurse Ann Hanlon had the final conversations with Keli Lane and the hospital notes document that both mother and the child were approved for discharged.
Lane was discharged/left Auburn without the Guthrie test/heel prick blood being done for Tegan. This means there is no DNA available for Tegan. The hospital allowed her to leave without doing the Guthrie test. Others believe that Lane deliberately left before the blood test/Guthrie sample was taken.
Hospital notes made by the nurse on duty show Lane was discharged at 1400 hours, ie 2pm.
This time of 1400 hours discharge was accepted at inquest.
The time of discharge was altered to 11am/12noon at trial with the prosecution arguing 1400 hours was the time the nurse made/wrote the notes, not the time Lane was discharged.
The exact time Lane left Auburn with Tegan is unknown.
The Judge said it could have been around 12noon.
Keli Lane says she left after lunch but is unable to pinpoint an exact hour.
The next time Lane was seen was when she arrived at her parents house at approx 3pm. Without the baby.
Lane says 'Andrew' visited her in her hospital room on 14/9/96 and packed up Tegan's things, then walked down the corridor and into the lift down to the foyer where she handed the baby over to 'Andrew' and his family.
No one has been found who saw Keli Lane leaving, or seeing a man being in her room upon discharge, or the claimed handover in the foyer. There is also no CCTV.
Lane told us the handover happened in the foyer/waiting room of Auburn Hospital (not the carpark. It's a bit unclear where the carpark theory came from), that there were lots of chairs there, and the front doors were glass sliding doors that opened directly out on to the main street-level carpark.
Lane says she caught a taxi from Auburn Hospital carpark back to Gladesville.
She originally told police that 'Andrew' drove her to Gladesville but then admitted she made that up because she was ashamed and embarrassed, and instead says she caught a taxi.
The taxi driver has not been found.
Again, no one saw Keli Lane leave the hospital that day.
There was/is speculation that Lane left with Tegan by sneaking out through the red fire exit door on the maternity ward, down the internal staircase, and out the back. But there's no evidence to prove this definitely happened either.
We are testing Lane's version of events and trying to prove what happened, if anyone saw her, and what was possible."
End of quote
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Post by figlet on Oct 12, 2018 10:31:07 GMT
We even had a thread on CS about Keli Lane/trial etc.. some fireworks in there..  |
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Post by lyn on Oct 12, 2018 10:53:20 GMT
She was known as the "mattress" around the Northern Beaches  ' |
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Post by figlet on Oct 13, 2018 5:35:36 GMT
Mentioned in the last part on TV, Keli's Defence had the option to have her past pregnancies, sex life excluded from the trial but they decided not to.
Can't understand that decision.
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Post by duffy on Oct 14, 2018 1:12:22 GMT
We even had a thread on CS about Keli Lane/trial etc.. some fireworks in there..  I bet! lol |
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Post by duffy on Oct 14, 2018 1:17:57 GMT
Mentioned in the last part on TV, Keli's Defence had the option to have her past pregnancies, sex life excluded from the trial but they decided not to. Can't understand that decision. Me either. |
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Post by avatarcat on Oct 14, 2018 1:23:34 GMT
I think that her sex life is irrelevant and wouldn't even be an issue if she was a man. Double standards. What is an issue is that a baby is missing, presumed dead, and that Keli has a history of lies and deception. It is horrible to think that a mother would kill her own baby but it does happen.
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Post by duffy on Oct 14, 2018 1:30:12 GMT
I think it was irrelevant too AC.
That was why that guy from WRs comment was offensive as well- he put the blame for Keli getting pregnant on her- when it shouldn't be up to the female soley to provide protection. And it's guys that have an issue with condoms in my experience, not girls.
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Post by avatarcat on Oct 14, 2018 1:30:39 GMT
I don't think that her defence team was working in her best interests. I don't think the police did all that good a job, either. The only one who did his job properly was the man who raised the alarm over Tegan being missing in the first place.
What was it that Dr Buist said that Keli struggled with? Was it Andrew Morris/Norris' name? I need to watch it again.
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Post by figlet on Oct 14, 2018 1:33:33 GMT
Yes.. the time she presented to Auburn Hospital, her time spent there and the hours between when she left that hospital without a baby and arrived at the wedding.. is what needed investigating.
Her being a prolific liar in the past would be relevant.. so that may have been behind the need to show what she's done in the past.
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Post by duffy on Oct 14, 2018 1:36:06 GMT
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Post by avatarcat on Oct 14, 2018 1:38:09 GMT
What Cowdery said and the way in which he said it was disgraceful, arrogant and misogynistic.
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Post by avatarcat on Oct 14, 2018 1:49:08 GMT
Thanks for that, Duff. Really, really interesting. I wouldn't be surprised if she left Tegan somewhere and just went about her life as per usual rather than deliberately murder her. Its a shame that she won't/can't be honest about what happened.
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Post by pennybanger on Oct 14, 2018 1:51:37 GMT
It's always the same isn't it - the woman is a slut, the man is a stud. I once got into an argument on FB with a guy who described his ex as being 'the town bicycle'. I asked him if he was known as 'the town lollipop (anyone could have a suck of it)
He didn't like it!!!
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