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Post by figlet on Sept 29, 2018 23:58:19 GMT
Not sure if baby Teagan arrived earlier than expected but the timing of her birrh interupted Keli's social calendar..must be at that wedding.. so she didn't have time to start any adoption process?
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Post by duffy on Sept 30, 2018 0:30:00 GMT
And the last adoption wasn't completed and she left the baby in the hospital iirc.
It seems a stretch to me, to go from adopting babies out, to killing one (after it was born).
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Post by maggiemay on Sept 30, 2018 1:54:33 GMT
she couldn't have left the baby with anybody, because that would have come to light in the extensive search.....i think she might not have "killed" it, but put it somewhere where nobody would find it, she was mentally ill, and it was a nuisance she had to get rid of that day
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Post by duffy on Sept 30, 2018 2:47:28 GMT
She didn't have much time to get rid of it, she left the hospital around Midday and was at her parents house by 3 which was a 45 minute drive. I guess they searched where they thought it might be. I wonder if she had a mobile back then?
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Post by pennybanger on Sept 30, 2018 4:45:33 GMT
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Post by maggiemay on Sept 30, 2018 5:01:16 GMT
i hope that the baby was not then sold to traffickers, but it possibly was, because that would never be uncovered in the searches done
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Post by duffy on Sept 30, 2018 7:01:07 GMT
That thought has sort of crossed my mind too Maggie. What if she sold/gave baby to someone. Someone who couldn't have kids.
I didn't know about the taxi driver Penny.
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Post by maggiemay on Sept 30, 2018 7:33:33 GMT
i hope the baby was not trafficked, that doesn't bear thinking about
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Post by pennybanger on Sept 30, 2018 8:07:39 GMT
You'd think if she'd given the baby away she would have admitted it rather than go down for murder. My feeling is still that she just left it somewhere and went away and 'forgot' about it.
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Post by lyn on Sept 30, 2018 8:17:33 GMT
I think the taxi driver story has been debunked -
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Post by duffy on Sept 30, 2018 8:48:39 GMT
You'd think if she'd given the baby away she would have admitted it rather than go down for murder. My feeling is still that she just left it somewhere and went away and 'forgot' about it. Well, she did admit it, she said she gave the baby away to the father, and his partner. And maybe that is why they won't come forward, because they were passing the baby off as their own.
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Post by pennybanger on Sept 30, 2018 9:00:01 GMT
I mean if she'd given it away to someone else. I never for a moment believed the story about the father -she couldn't even get his name right.
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Post by duffy on Sept 30, 2018 9:26:01 GMT
Yes, she changed the name or never knew what it really was- Morris or Norris.
Sorry, I misunderstood you.
I don't know, it is a strange case- looking forward to part 2 this week.
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Post by figlet on Sept 30, 2018 11:47:04 GMT
Also..why not just keep having abortions?
She did try for a third one in QLD but was turned down (too late?)
She obviously didn't have any intention of keeping any of the next three.
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Post by figlet on Sept 30, 2018 11:54:45 GMT
The babys father, his girlfriend/partner and his mother 'came to collect the baby".
If that story was true..and they knew (years later) there was a police search for that child..anyone of them could contact police in secret, allow a DNA test (father)..and not be identified in public.
The girl would not be taken off her father or paternal grandma. Keli didn't want her.
They could just confirm keli's story.
That she gave a baby away without registering it is odd too. Father turns up to register it..who is her mother?
Baby not registered..can't enrol in school..no birth certifcate.
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Post by avatarcat on Oct 1, 2018 5:33:41 GMT
I say that she left the baby somewhere and didn't give her a second thought and expected her lies to be believed as they had been in the past. Murder cannot be discounted, though, as women have been known to kill their newborns for various reasons, including PND.
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Post by duffy on Oct 2, 2018 8:24:56 GMT
Bump, as a reminder Part 2 is on tonight :)
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Post by maggiemay on Oct 2, 2018 8:34:31 GMT
yep, recorder set...there is another man who has come forward with info on the father
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Post by figlet on Oct 2, 2018 9:39:54 GMT
I heard a bit of that on the TV news, maggie, but not all of it.. something about confirming the man (baby Teagans father) she had an affair with, did live in the building she said he did?
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Post by figlet on Oct 2, 2018 12:01:43 GMT
I'm not convinced the man who lived in the Balmain flats could remember many years later exactly what the blonde young woman he remembers seeing leaving there looked like.
Why didn't they show him photos of Keli and several different young women, similar build, with long blonde hair and get him to pick the one he remembered?
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Keating recalling Morrison passing around coal in QT calls him "ä fossil in a baseball cap""
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Post by deb on Oct 2, 2018 12:47:11 GMT
I didn't think that man was very convincing either Fig... it's such a strange story
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Post by maggiemay on Oct 2, 2018 22:01:28 GMT
i read this yesterday
No man named Andrew Morris or Andrew Norris has ever come forward, and a police investigation found a man by either of those names did not live in the apartment building at the time.
When police showed tenants who lived in the building at the time a picture of Lane as part of their murder investigation, none said they had seen her around.
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Post by lyn on Oct 2, 2018 22:34:52 GMT
Agree, that fella wasn't convincing how could anyone recall that insignificant memory
all those years later maybe a bad incident like a car accident or something of
significance would be something you would recall but the face of a women - Nah!
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Post by avatarcat on Oct 2, 2018 22:53:59 GMT
15 minutes of fame. If a photo of Keli Lane was shown to me, I'd recognise her, too. I don't think the journalist is doing a good job but she did expose the areas inwhich the police were tardy. Lucky its not a popularity contest or else Keli's parents would lose. Her mum referred to Tegan as "it". She was her granddaughter, FGS.
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Keating recalling Morrison passing around coal in QT calls him "ä fossil in a baseball cap""
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Post by deb on Oct 2, 2018 23:31:12 GMT
if this Andrew Morris/Norris existed. surely he or someone who knows him would've stepped forward rather than let her be charged with murder and languish in gaol.. Even if he lived overseas... he would've heard the story
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Post by figlet on Oct 3, 2018 0:36:58 GMT
I think so too, deb.
Right back to when she was on trial.Extensive coverage of that, especially in NSW.
He has nothing to lose by doing so. He is Tegans father. Obviuosly Keli has no interest in the children she gave away.
As Ava said the journos have unearthed a couple of major issues that the police investigation failed in..one not requesting her mobile phone records for 1996. She claimed she made/received calls from Andrew M/Norris.
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Post by lyn on Oct 3, 2018 2:28:00 GMT
You have to wonder and be a little suspicious knowing her Father being in the Police Force
if missing documents and the lack of thorough investigation could be attributed to his position.
We all know there are many cases of corruption involving cops.
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Post by pennybanger on Oct 3, 2018 3:08:48 GMT
If those phone records were available and could have supported her claim then surely her defence lawyer should have obtained them.
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Post by maggiemay on Oct 3, 2018 6:10:20 GMT
well, just watched it, the second interview where she didn't answer was telling, i think she was afraid of forgetting what she had said before.....what a coincidence that that man was working on his car at 1am on the same (several) nights of the booty calls "under the cosh" haven't heard that expression before, but describes police interviews perfectly, especially in the past
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Post by pennybanger on Oct 3, 2018 8:38:57 GMT
The thing that puzzles me is, unless she had her own car someone must have driven her away from the hospital. If it was a taxi, surely there would have been a record of it. I know there must be dozens of taxi pick ups from that hospital every day but not too many of them would be a young girl leaving on her own with a tiny baby. And how did she arrive at the wedding? Was that in a taxi? Was it the same taxi that picked her up from the hospital?
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