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Post by flashie on Feb 27, 2018 21:30:15 GMT
As some of you know I have recently remade contact with my natural family.
I have not spoken to my natural mother in over 30 years...............in fact I thought she had died.
When I met up with one of my natural Aunties I found out she loves family history as much as I do.
But she has no computer skills..............so she asked me to do their/our tree for her.
I love the chase..............so of course I said yes I would.
Now this is where the strange coincidence occurs.
My natural great great grandparents have surnames which are also Christian names.
And.......................these are the names of our two sons..........(well one is the shortening of his name)
How could this be?..................I had absolutely no idea at the time.
And also.................when our eldest son was born we had terrible trouble picking a middle name for him.
Nothing seemed to fit...................and finally we picked a short name that sounded fine.
This name is the English version of my great great great grandfathers German name.
Nothing but coincidence................but interesting just the same.
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Post by deb on Feb 27, 2018 22:06:41 GMT
it is a weird thing Flashie, but it happens
years ago I went to a family reunion... lots of people there I didn't know and when I looked at the family tree I noticed that two names, ( one male and one female) just kept popping up out of the blue in various generations. Though I didn't realize it at the time we had named our daughter one of those names and my uncle has the male name
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2018 23:06:48 GMT
i guess this is more" it's a small world" , maybe... curtis works with a lovely young lady named taryn,who's getting married in may, and sent home our invitation with curtis the other day. i worked with her while i was there, and i've been sending her and her fiance lasagna and stuff for about 5 years now, she's such a sweet girl. well, i never knew her last name until i got the invite, and it rang a bell! my cousin jackie had mentioned a couple of years ago that she has a granddaughter named taryn,i thought nothing of it, it's a popular name in that age group. so i called the store yesterday and asked taryn if her gramma's name was the same as my cousin's.. lo and behold,taryn is my cousin!! and i will get to see her gramma and her dad, neither of whom i've seen in 40 years at the wedding!! we are all so excited!!! i now understand why taryn and i hit it off so fast, she is JUST like her gramma!!!
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Post by dawn on Feb 28, 2018 4:31:12 GMT
That's so neat Flashie, Deb and especially Sin.
Mine isn't quite as cool.
When they named my granddaughter I was disappointed in the name. I thought they should pick a family name which is tradition in our family.
A few years later I got into the family tree dealie and on one side of the tree... as far back as I can go ... 1600s England. The great great etc etc etc Grandmother- same name as my granddaughter.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2018 5:26:13 GMT
that's kinda cool too, though! the whole family names thing is to me, we don't get that with females in my family very much. i'm the last barri,and i'm the reason i'm the last, i threatened a few parents, lol! it was NOT fun growing up with my name.
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Post by figlet on Feb 28, 2018 6:20:25 GMT
I didn't want to saddle my kids with 3 first names like I have.. family names - old fashioned, French & English ancestors.. although one name people ask is it German.
A few years ago I found my youngest daughters first name in a Genealogy Report for my maternal grandparents... It has Catherine (then daughters name in brackets). I presume that woman (born in 1831 in France, died in NZ) was called by her second name.
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Post by deb on Feb 28, 2018 8:09:47 GMT
When my kids were in Primary school I often used to wak the kids to school and chat to this lady whose son was a little friend of my daughter. Some years later we were were interviewed for an article in the local paper and it was when she said her surname that I realized we must be related... My mother's family is the only family in Aust. with that particular surname..
it was so funny, all those years we'd sort of known each other but hadn't She had also been at the family reunion some years earlier but when she was researching the family tree, she said she had my mother married to the wrong man ( I fixed that for her) lol
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Post by figlet on Feb 28, 2018 9:58:39 GMT
A guy I worked with was at one of our family reunions.. I didn't know he was related till then. His surname was the same as grandmothers maiden name but it's a pretty common surname.
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Post by dawn on Feb 28, 2018 11:02:34 GMT
I could kick myself for being antisocial at my last paternal side family reunion. I was young and I didn't want to go. My dad guilted me into going and I showed him by being antisocial. Ugh. I hate that I did that. I know very little about that branch. My tree is lopsided. I know everything about my mothers relatives and only half of my fathers side. I have nothing on my father's father.
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Post by kayoneuu1 on Feb 28, 2018 20:30:34 GMT
Iโve mentioned before that my parents divorced when I was quite young and that he was a bit of a โladโ. Well, many years ago now my sister and her husband decided, on the spur of the moment, to go to a nice out of town restaurant for lunch. When they walked in they noticed a largish group obviously having a celebration of some sort. When they looked closer they realised it was our fatherโs wedding party! He had just got married for the 3rd time! She says they didnโt stay for lunch
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Post by deb on Feb 28, 2018 22:02:05 GMT
Oh my Kay!! and LOL
Dawn. mainly I went to the renunion because my mother wanted me to. I didn't take much notice of who was who, which is something I regretted later on
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Post by joono on Feb 28, 2018 22:55:41 GMT
Kay I hope that really made HIS day.
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Post by figlet on Mar 1, 2018 0:02:33 GMT
What are the odds of that happening?
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Post by pennybanger on Mar 1, 2018 7:08:22 GMT
OMG @ Kay's post.
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Post by pennybanger on Mar 1, 2018 7:14:10 GMT
Not a coincidence, but a rather shocking skeleton I've just discovered in Mr Penny's family tree. In 1834 one of his ancestors was married at age 13 to a man eight years older than herself. She was 2 months pregnant at the time so I suspect she was given special permission to marry for that reason. She went on to have 11 children to him. That poor little girl, whatever kind of a life must it have been? And the man she married was the son of a man who was hanged for highway robbery and then discovered afterwards to be innocent!
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Post by maggiemay on Mar 1, 2018 7:26:56 GMT
Penny, do you know what the age for marriage was then? it might have been very young because people's life expectancy was short... right now, there is a problem in France because an 11 year old girl is pregnant and there is not a problem because the age of consent is lower than that, people are trying to have it raised and there is a battle going on....i heard this on the abc but haven't googled it
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Post by noidrhoid on Mar 1, 2018 14:11:28 GMT
i knew this guy
lived with this beautiful, lithesome, 6' tall, blue-eyed blond dancer, in a quaint new england cottage from where he sold quality antiques and furniture.
They didn't have much but they had each other and a plan to build on.
out of the blue, she decided to leave for the promise of California.
The guy was devastated that she was leaving and, though invited, couldn't follow.
He had family & history.
The day she left, he gave her his last bit of cash, a soulful kiss & his best wishes.
Crushed & on the verge of giving up, he sat in his shop ( attached to the country cottage ) and prayed, out loud,
"Lord, I need your help. Please help me".
He meant it with every fiber,molecule & quant of his being ( so he said ).
No cash, nothing but a few cans of creamed corn in the cupboard and one's heart being ripped out will do that, so I've heard.
A short time later, a couple wandered in, wanted to buy a dining set but haggled with the guy.
( They were short a whole $10 of what the guy wanted &, being in bad frame of mind, he was being a dick. They said they'd come back tomorrow with the other 10...yeahhh, riiiight. )
As he & they haggled, another gent wandered in & interjected himself into the negotitiation.
"They seem like a nice couple. Give them the set. They don't come back? I'll give you the 10 bucks."
The guy, beat down & beleagured, gave in.
The young couple left happy & he had instant money in his pocket.
The interloper asks "Do you buy or trade?"
The guy; "Sometimes. Depends."
"Maybe I should show you something."
"Yeah, maybe you should" the guy responds with dripping sarcasm.
As the Interloper rummages through his Lincoln he calls out, "Hey! You hungry?"
"Nah", the guy lies.
"You sure?"
"Hey, whatever man..."
The stranger returns with a couple of bags.
Shortly, they're making a deal wherein the guy trades 6 American Limoges dinner plates for a dozen, heavy, "made-in-japan" Blue Willow plates and $60, cash, from the interloper.
Then the Interloper opens the other bag.
"I was at this restaurant; had to meet a friend who wanted to talk.
I ordered this shrimp scampi & the vegetables but I didn't touch them because I wasn't really hungry."
"By the way, my name is Father Mescal. I'm pastor at the Star of the Sea church."
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Post by joono on Mar 1, 2018 14:46:15 GMT
Go on!
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Post by pennybanger on Mar 2, 2018 5:35:58 GMT
Penny, do you know what the age for marriage was then? it might have been very young because people's life expectancy was short... right now, there is a problem in France because an 11 year old girl is pregnant and there is not a problem because the age of consent is lower than that, people are trying to have it raised and there is a battle going on....i heard this on the abc but haven't googled it I checked, Maggie - there wasn't a lot of information out there but as far as I can make out, right up till 1942 the marriage age was the same as the age of consent 14 for boys and 12 for girls. Flashie might be better informed, she's been into this family history stuff a lot longer than me. I imagine at that age you'd still have needed parental consent, but even so it seems unbelievable today, doesn't it.
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Post by maggiemay on Mar 2, 2018 6:18:08 GMT
i had to get parental consent, i was 20 and a half so did my husband, he was younger oh the horror (don't tell sticky)
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Post by pennybanger on Mar 2, 2018 7:43:00 GMT
My lips are sealed.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2018 8:06:32 GMT
now wait a minute here! WHERE has my zipped lips gotten to, pepe?? i NEED that for the soap thread!!! or maggie will put a hurt on me! sigh... meantime, i'll just say it.. ZIPPED LIPS!
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Post by avatarcat on Mar 4, 2018 0:45:54 GMT
Poor girls, being forced to deal with adult situations at such a young age. If I remember correctly, canon law deemed marriageability to be based on procreation age which was something like 12 for girls and 13/14 for boys.
My parents were both 20 when they married in 1955. They needed parental consent and blood tests. And, birth certificates. It was then that my dad found out that he was illegitimate after being informed that he didn't exist. My grandmother remained married to her first husband and , I suspect to make my dad, for all intents and purposes, appear legitimate, gave him her first husbands surname. My dad had it changed via deedpoll to his father's surname. Anyway, because he was under 21, his dad had to prove to the Courts that he was a fit parent. I wonder what would have happened if he had have been deemed unfit?
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Post by avatarcat on Mar 4, 2018 0:54:15 GMT
Years and years ago, I received a phonecall from the Tax Office [ the real one and not the one that tells me of my imminent arrest if I don't call such and such number asap] asking me questions such as have you ever lived at this address? Or this address? I hadn't. The woman then went on to explain. A discrepancy had been flagged for further investigation. She had earlier called a woman and asked her if she had ever lived at my previous addresses which she hadn't. It turns out that both of us had identical names, spelt the exact same way, had the same birthdate, both were in defacto relationships and had two children. How bizarre is that?
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Post by duffy on Mar 4, 2018 0:58:33 GMT
I'm jealous of everyone's family stories. As well as being adopted and not knowing anything about my birth families, I have very limited family in my new family as well. I don't have any cousins, no grandparents and only two aunties.
Anyway, my coincidence.
Met a lady online on a chatboard (Websleuths). We became friends. When I told her my real name, she said she started to cry. We had the same surname, and she had given birth to a stillborn girl, who she had named my first name. Plus, her name was Margaret, which was my biologicals Mothers name.
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Post by maggiemay on Mar 4, 2018 1:20:48 GMT
i was with my daughter (before she was married) at a specialist's surgery, i was not a patient there someone came out and announced MY name, not my daughter's.......we sorted it out
but my given name along with my married name is somewhat unusual, i would never have guessed that there would be another in the universe, but i have since discovered that there is a lawyer, a lot younger then me, with the same combination of names in this city, and we have middle names with one letter different, mine is Kay, hers is Fay.....now that is spooky
only once since then was there confusion when i went to vote and the person almost crossed out her name instead of mine on the roll (lucky i can read upside down), so she must have been living in the same electorate at the time
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Post by joono on Mar 4, 2018 1:59:20 GMT
I sort of hate to ask this Duffy, but is it possible the your online friend was actually your mother?
I'm just thinking of an unwed mother back in the day when their baby was taken from them.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2018 2:06:01 GMT
duffy, if you don't mind having batshit crazy,really loud relatives who live in" the great white north",you're welcome to join my family!
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Post by madara on Mar 4, 2018 2:38:39 GMT
i had a teacher who was near the end of his career and we just didn't get on at all .. along came ''parent teacher interviews '' and when my parents walked in he recognized my mother from the first class he ever taught . (they didn't get on either ) he treated me a lot better for the remaining half a year .
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Post by duffy on Mar 4, 2018 3:48:53 GMT
Joono- no the lady was from America.
A friend tracked my bio mother down- she made every excuse not to see me, so..you know..fuck her. That was when I was 24, I'm 49 now- she's probably dead.
I made a half assed attempt at finding my bio Dad. Went to the role office and wrote down all the Ron Savages in every state except 2. I rang them all but no luck, and I couldn't be bothered now.
I'm a loner. I like it that way. I have my Mum and my son and I have good friends who are like family to me.
Thanks Sin- lol.
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