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Post by kayoneuu1 on Sept 9, 2024 22:37:03 GMT
Polls are becoming a less and less reliable indicator of voter intentions. Because of spam and scams most people don’t answer numbers they (or their phones ) don’t recognise
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Post by pepe on Sept 9, 2024 22:43:14 GMT
Trump is not fit to run a lemonade stand let alone a country - and neither are those telling him he is pretty and hiding behind his lunacy to get their agendas across.
The republican party has devolved into a total farce. Take it back and put up a viable candidate than can match the energy that Harris and Walz are bringing and can at least talk a good game.
You insist Kamala is dumb - she isn't - she is outplaying Trump/Vance at every turn. She speaks about the things people want to hear, she speaks confidently and engages the audience- so does Walz.
trump speaks about himself he blatantly lies, people know his ridiculous claims are lies - those that they can understand what he is talking about that is... I could keep going....
I dislike him as a human being but that aside I am being sincere and honest when I say the thought of him winning scares the hell out of me.
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Post by moldman on Sept 10, 2024 12:22:40 GMT
I'm excited about a more and more likely Trump victory, I hope that it's at least a draw tonight. Momentum is all Trump now, he just needs to not blow it and he will win. That's a big if. Let's be honest here, neither of them belongs in the oval office, but of the two, it's not even a contest, Trump 2024. She is crazy left and now is trying to lie about that to trick voters. She is absolute scum and has no moral high ground whatsoever. She IS stupid. Dozens of videos prove that. I also think that she is either a drunk or a stoner............her behavior is not normal, not even close. Over 90% of her VP staff quit.....now she is the candidate of "joy". What a joke.
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Post by moldman on Sept 10, 2024 12:29:13 GMT
Moldman, do you believe that Trump will eliminate the deficit. I keep hearing about Harris's pie-in-the-sky plan to give poor Americans $25,000 to use for a down payment on a home. I'm smart enough to know and admit that that's not feasible and will not happen. Are you smart enough to admit that Trump won't eliminate the deficit? His lies and political posturing are completely ignored by you, while you focus on the mundane ideas coming from Harris. Do you really believe that kids go to school and come home with an operation to change their sex? Do you believe that virtually 100% of jobs created during the Biden administration, have gone to illegals? At that same rally in Las Vegas he talked about the prospect of being killed by an electric boat as opposed to a being killed by a shark. Is that the talk of a person you want for president. And don't get me started about Hannibal Lector. Sane??? I hardly think so. Here are some oldies but goodies: www.cnn.com/2022/11/16/politics/trump-campaign-announcement-speech-2024/index.htmlNo, Trump did a shitty job with the deficit last time, he has only been surpassed by Biden/Harris in that regard. Harris is a disgusting liar. She could debate her actual self FFS. The border, the 2nd Amendment, fracking................ she is lying, claiming that she has done a 180 on these and every other controversial issue, looking to trick uninformed voters.
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Post by moldman on Sept 10, 2024 13:09:08 GMT
Trump is not fit to run a lemonade stand let alone a country - and neither are those telling him he is pretty and hiding behind his lunacy to get their agendas across. The republican party has devolved into a total farce. Take it back and put up a viable candidate than can match the energy that Harris and Walz are bringing and can at least talk a good game. You insist Kamala is dumb - she isn't - she is outplaying Trump/Vance at every turn. She speaks about the things people want to hear, she speaks confidently and engages the audience- so does Walz. trump speaks about himself he blatantly lies, people know his ridiculous claims are lies - those that they can understand what he is talking about that is... I could keep going.... I dislike him as a human being but that aside I am being sincere and honest when I say the thought of him winning scares the hell out of me. Ummm.............that's a pretty moronic statement since Trump has built and runs a business empire worth billions. The Democrat party is the one that has devolved into a total farce and now is openly pushing Marxist ideology and an open border. The ploy of not letting Harris answer questions from the press is now imploding. It's all downhill for Harris as long as Trump puts a lid on stupid. She is letting the lies get so outrageous that even Democrats are not buying it. Her unlikeable personality is grating on borderline voters. By some miracle some voters are actually concentrating on the issues instead of the cult of personality. The border chaos is going to sink her campaign.
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Post by joono on Sept 10, 2024 13:35:47 GMT
Trump has bankrupt six companies. What will he do to America? His DJT shares are now at 18.4 and they started at $48 when I first started watching.
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Post by moldman on Sept 10, 2024 13:40:01 GMT
Trump has bankrupt six companies. What will he do to America? His DJT shares are now at 18.4 and they started at $48 when I first started watching. He's still worth about 3 billion more than me. He has taken on the deep state, and it has tried to fuck him over any way that it can.
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Post by moldman on Sept 10, 2024 13:42:21 GMT
By the way, you do know that large conglomerates shut down and/or declare bankruptcy on many acquisitions and/or divisions............ Right? It's how big business operates. The bottom line is the indicator............3 plus billion, I would take it.
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Post by joono on Sept 10, 2024 14:16:44 GMT
Okay. So he's failed on many occasions but it's just business.
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Post by moldman on Sept 10, 2024 14:27:47 GMT
It isn't a failure, it's a commonly used tool.
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Post by moldman on Sept 10, 2024 18:09:47 GMT
President Trump is up by 19 points over Scumbag Harris with young voters age 18 to 34. If he controls his mouth, he could run away with this. There is a reason that she was absolutely dead last in 2019. I think that young people are probably smart enough to catch on to the fact that she was chosen by the Democrat elite, bypassing the voters. They don't like that shit. Chosen by Biden for her race and gender and nothing else.
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Post by goblins on Sept 10, 2024 22:00:06 GMT
"I dislike him as a human being but that aside I am being sincere and honest when I say the thought of him winning scares the hell out of me."
Me too, PePe, me too.
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Post by kayoneuu1 on Sept 10, 2024 22:28:47 GMT
Moldman, do you believe that Trump will eliminate the deficit. I keep hearing about Harris's pie-in-the-sky plan to give poor Americans $25,000 to use for a down payment on a home. I'm smart enough to know and admit that that's not feasible and will not happen. Are you smart enough to admit that Trump won't eliminate the deficit? His lies and political posturing are completely ignored by you, while you focus on the mundane ideas coming from Harris. Do you really believe that kids go to school and come home with an operation to change their sex? Do you believe that virtually 100% of jobs created during the Biden administration, have gone to illegals? At that same rally in Las Vegas he talked about the prospect of being killed by an electric boat as opposed to a being killed by a shark. Is that the talk of a person you want for president. And don't get me started about Hannibal Lector. Sane??? I hardly think so. Here are some oldies but goodies: www.cnn.com/2022/11/16/politics/trump-campaign-announcement-speech-2024/index.htmlNo, Trump did a shitty job with the deficit last time, he has only been surpassed by Biden/Harris in that regard. Harris is a disgusting liar. She could debate her actual self FFS. The border, the 2nd Amendment, fracking................ she is lying, claiming that she has done a 180 on these and every other controversial issue, looking to trick uninformed voters. There it is, happening again. You ignore the specific questions about things Trump actually said (batteries, sharks, fictional movie characters, sex change surgeries that aren’t happening, et al) and immediately make it about his opponent. It’s myopic at best.
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Post by pepe on Sept 10, 2024 22:29:11 GMT
he can't control the stupid shit because that is who he is and all he has.
just out of curiosity - do you think vance was a smart choice and do you think he chose him for political or personal reasons?
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Post by joono on Sept 11, 2024 1:42:09 GMT
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Post by pepe on Sept 11, 2024 5:38:59 GMT
it went well for one of them...
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Post by moldman on Sept 11, 2024 12:28:44 GMT
he can't control the stupid shit because that is who he is and all he has. just out of curiosity - do you think vance was a smart choice and do you think he chose him for political or personal reasons? Yes I do, and I wish that Vance could have debated Harris, the outcome would have been a lot different. He was picked for political reasons, he's brilliant and thinks on his feet.
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Post by moldman on Sept 11, 2024 12:31:26 GMT
it went well for one of them... No, it did not..........it went worse for Trump, but they both sucked. She came off as very unlikeable. She lied constantly but was supported by her campaign staff from ABC. One of my great nephews who is 14 years old, said that they looked like a couple of kids fighting in a playground.
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Post by moldman on Sept 11, 2024 12:34:38 GMT
Serious question: Do you think that it's ok to have moderators that attack one candidate with their questions to him, and then lob softballs to the opponent? Is it ok to aggressively fact check only one of them.............often erroneously...........while ignoring the blatant, easily proven lies of the other? They are manipulating the election process.
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Post by pepe on Sept 11, 2024 13:12:26 GMT
i don't know much about her political past so i don't know if she lied or not- she is a politician so its pretty safe to assume the truth was likely at the least stretched but i hate to tell you she actually didn't come off as unlikable - quite the opposite really. she speaks well and is engaging and convincing.
it was obvious from about the 5 minute mark that he didn't stand a chance against her and he knew it so doubled down on the lies.
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Post by pepe on Sept 11, 2024 13:16:42 GMT
Serious question: Do you think that it's ok to have moderators that attack one candidate with their questions to him, and then lob softballs to the opponent? Is it ok to aggressively fact check only one of them.............often erroneously...........while ignoring the blatant, easily proven lies of the other? They are manipulating the election process. no thats not ok, its supposed to be impartial.
like i said, i don't know if she lied, if she did they should have called her on it.
though i doubt they can make trump look any worse than he made himself look
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Post by moldman on Sept 11, 2024 13:30:06 GMT
She did lie......she said that she was in favor of a mandatory buy back of firearms. She said that she wanted to legalize all people in the US. She adamantly said that she wanted to ban fracking..............it's all on YouTube.
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Post by pepe on Sept 11, 2024 13:34:17 GMT
they actually did ask her about her changed values on those matters though...
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Post by egulch2 on Sept 11, 2024 14:09:29 GMT
i don't know much about her political past so i don't know if she lied or not- she is a politician so its pretty safe to assume the truth was likely at the least stretched but i hate to tell you she actually didn't come off as unlikable - quite the opposite really. she speaks well and is engaging and convincing. it was obvious from about the 5 minute mark that he didn't stand a chance against her and he knew it so doubled down on the lies. There is no doubt that people watching the debate, mostly judged it on their political bent. While Moldman thinks She came off as very unlikeable, I think just the opposite. I think she came off as a very likeable person as she discussed what Americans want and need from their leaders. She came across as very caring. Trump never talked about caring for the people. He spent the majority of his time ranting and raving about her and Biden. He couldn't even look at Harris or even use her name. As for Moldman's claim that they lobbed easy questions to her. They questioned her about her changing views on fracking, mandatory buy back programs on assault weapons, and her original comments about decriminalizing border crossers to "now you're taking a harder line on immigration". They hardly gave her easy questions. For the most part, she was asked mostly the same questions that Trump was asked. And yes, other than her answer about fracking, she didn't answer the the other two questions. Neither candidate, from the very first question asked, answered many of the questions.
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Post by moldman on Sept 11, 2024 14:52:42 GMT
i don't know much about her political past so i don't know if she lied or not- she is a politician so its pretty safe to assume the truth was likely at the least stretched but i hate to tell you she actually didn't come off as unlikable - quite the opposite really. she speaks well and is engaging and convincing. it was obvious from about the 5 minute mark that he didn't stand a chance against her and he knew it so doubled down on the lies. There is no doubt that people watching the debate, mostly judged it on their political bent. While Moldman thinks She came off as very unlikeable, I think just the opposite. I think she came off as a very likeable person as she discussed what Americans want and need from their leaders. She came across as very caring. Trump never talked about caring for the people. He spent the majority of his time ranting and raving about her and Biden. He couldn't even look at Harris or even use her name. As for Moldman's claim that they lobbed easy questions to her. They questioned her about her changing views on fracking, mandatory buy back programs on assault weapons, and her original comments about decriminalizing border crossers to "now you're taking a harder line on immigration". They hardly gave her easy questions. For the most part, she was asked mostly the same questions that Trump was asked. And yes, other than her answer about fracking, she didn't answer the the other two questions. Neither candidate, from the very first question asked, answered many of the questions. Watch the debate for yourselves if you can stand to, then see how much bullshit is in this post. It's fucking ridiculous. Yes, they asked her about her 180 degree reversals, but when she lied through her teeth in response, they never fact checked her or called her out. Go to YouTube and search for Kamala Harris fracking, the border, or gun buy backs.............she's a pathological liar.
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Post by moldman on Sept 11, 2024 15:12:33 GMT
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Post by dalt on Sept 11, 2024 17:07:25 GMT
President Trump is up by 19 points over Scumbag Harris with young voters age 18 to 34. If he controls his mouth, he could run away with this. There is a reason that she was absolutely dead last in 2019. I think that young people are probably smart enough to catch on to the fact that she was chosen by the Democrat elite, bypassing the voters. They don't like that shit. Chosen by Biden for her race and gender and nothing else.
I'd love to see a link to this BS "statistic."
Young people are registering to vote in record #s, but I doubt the majority are backing the orange octogenarian felon.
There's been a huge increase in "young people" voter registration since Biden stepped down. I wonder what the catalyst could be? Could it be that these people can more relate to Harris' message of better times to come; than Trumps message of fear doom and gloom?
It's highly doubtful if Trump has a lead in this demographic- much less a 19 point lead.
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Post by egulch2 on Sept 11, 2024 17:20:11 GMT
President Trump is up by 19 points over Scumbag Harris with young voters age 18 to 34. If he controls his mouth, he could run away with this. There is a reason that she was absolutely dead last in 2019. I think that young people are probably smart enough to catch on to the fact that she was chosen by the Democrat elite, bypassing the voters. They don't like that shit. Chosen by Biden for her race and gender and nothing else.
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Post by moldman on Sept 11, 2024 17:24:15 GMT
President Trump is up by 19 points over Scumbag Harris with young voters age 18 to 34. If he controls his mouth, he could run away with this. There is a reason that she was absolutely dead last in 2019. I think that young people are probably smart enough to catch on to the fact that she was chosen by the Democrat elite, bypassing the voters. They don't like that shit. Chosen by Biden for her race and gender and nothing else.
I'd love to see a link to this BS "statistic."
Young people are registering to vote in record #s, but I doubt the majority are backing the orange octogenarian felon.
There's been a huge increase in "young people" voter registration since Biden stepped down. I wonder what the catalyst could be? Could it be that these people can more relate to Harris' message of better times to come; than Trumps message of fear doom and gloom?
It's highly doubtful if Trump has a lead in this demographic- much less a 19 point lead.
I think that you are correct on this. I can't find anything to back it up. I did see it somewhere, I can guarantee you that, and I quoted it accurately. It looks like they pulled it out of their ass though. So much fucking bullshit all around now.............I feel like ignoring it all, voting, then checking the results the next day.
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Post by moldman on Sept 11, 2024 17:26:16 GMT
Fuck liars from both sides. Assholes.
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